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Post by Admin on Feb 4, 2018 18:21:25 GMT
Ricky is the admin this week
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Post by @Ricky on Feb 5, 2018 12:55:08 GMT
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Post by Olivia Girdwood on Feb 6, 2018 13:42:36 GMT
The water crisis in Cape Town is one of drastic measures. If people continue using water up the way they always have, taking it for granted, the dams will dry up and there will not be enough water to support everyone until the dams can be replenished by rain. Even then, rain is not a regular happening. The south African military will not do much. People who are dehydrated or have children who need to drink water or formula are going to do everything they can to get that water. It does not matter who stands against them. All the military will do is either a. Kill people who try to get the water, b. Make it seem like the government is saving the rest for themselves, or c. either of those things. I do not really believe they will make a difference once restrictions for water usage are decreased by any more. In a way, fines could be a good thing. They prevent some people from using more than their allotted amount of water, but those who can pay the fines don't care. In the NBC News article it was mentioned that, “People are still watering their lawns, filling their pools and bathing. They seem happy to just pay the fines. It’s so upsetting,” Stodel said.” they do not care about they fines, they are being selfish and acting like nothing is wrong around them. If the resources and technology is available, the government could put regulations on the water supply to the point that once “x” amount of water goes through a certain households pipes, no more is allowed to go there that day. Like it gets a block in the pipe. One thing that could help Cape Town is other countries and cities sending water to the area. Some cities already are. The United States, Europe and other World Powers should be raising awareness of this crisis, but maybe not necessarily doing anything else. If someone would like to help they must figure out how to get it there by themselves or with a group of other people. One question I had was , so the people living in Cape Town are having to ration their water usage… but in the CNN article by Mezzofiore, it is mentioned that “Vacant stores are used to warehouse the water, though there is never enough room. “We don't have enough space to store the water coming down,” van der Heever said.” There is water being donated to these people, enough that vacant stores cannot hold it all… Why are the people not using this water, instead of the dam water, to let the dams replenish? Is that not the whole issue, the water in the dams are depleting?
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Post by Maddy Crighton on Feb 7, 2018 0:02:27 GMT
South Africa is experiencing one of the worst droughts in history. Countries all across the continent are forced to save their water in very extreme ways. According to Global News, the city of Cape Town has reduced the water consumption from 580 million liters to 540 million liters, and yet this is not enough. Residents that live in this area have reduced their personal consumption from 87 liters all the way to 25 liters. Sitaara Stodel, a Cape Town resident, has begun to reuse her water from her shower and her washing machine in order to flush her toilet and water her plants. Housekeeper Petronella van Schalkwyk has also taken the act of conserving water to the greatest limits. She has moved her bathtub outside in order for it to catch rain water and uses spray bottles to bathe (NBC News). However, not everyone is taking this water crisis as serious as it is. According to Stodel, “People are still watering their lawns, filling their pools and bathing. They seem happy to just pay the fines.” In order to combat the beliefs of these individuals, the South African Military has been placed in Cape Town to protect the water supply. Members will be standing guard at various water checkpoints throughout the city (Global News). With that being said, there is not much else for the military to do. Yes, they can help with people from taking too much, but the water level will continue to decline unless help is sent or the drought ends. The US has begun to send water in to Cape Town and campaigns have been created in order to spread the word (CNN). So far Cape Town has collected over 50,000 liters of water and more to come. Other countries need to send water and other efforts to South Africa in order to relieve them of this disaster.
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Post by Laura Gutauskas on Feb 7, 2018 2:02:05 GMT
One of the most difficult parts of dealing with a natural disaster is determining how to allocate resources to everyone fairly. In such a prolonged event like this, government intervention is necessary and as is international help. Although, having armed guards just seems counterintuitive even with the drastic measures that need to be taken to limit water usage. There shouldn’t be a military for the water in the first place since there’s no point in waiting until it dries up to implement a task force. It could risk putting the people in harm’s way if violence broke out and could promote wealthier citizens to corrupt the system by bribing officers for access to more water than others (they already pay fines willingly). What is instead needed, is better regulation than just fines. Turning off water pipes for those who have exceeded their daily ration seems to be the most reasonable solution despite people’s protests. Some citizens have even tweeted their concerns at Cape Town’s Twitter in order to encourage action against those furthering the problem; “I caught an elderly person with her sprinklers on yesterday. This is the same person you exempt from water restrictions last year because she could not afford a borehole” (NBC). Monitoring issues like this at local levels is crucial if anyone wants to see an end to this drought. One of the problems with government intervention is when a certain area receives special treatment for the wrong reasons as mentioned by NBC, “Some downtown areas could also be exempt and not cut off for the sake of tourism and business.” While I can understand why poorer areas may be exempt due to the risk of disease, why should richer areas be given more water? Tourism and business should be at the bottom of the list of priorities when such a dire event puts millions of lives at risk. Even just tourism alone can be put on hold while places like South London are donating whatever amounts of water that they can to Cape Town. Although South London can’t necessarily fix the amount of rainfall in South Africa, they certainly can temporarily mitigate the effects to prevent crop failure, disease, or even death. They can’t do this on their own, though, and it’s the responsibility of other cities and countries to take action as well. This means they’ll need to get creative like Van der Heever did; “Farmers that bring their produce to East London, Johannesburg, Durban, their trucks go back to Cape Town empty. So I thought that maybe they can carry the water with them" (CNN). It’ll be more difficult for overseas countries to transport massive amounts of water, although with enough effort, it’s possible to help save millions of people.
Why do you think the government is planning on exempting areas for the sake of tourism and business? Do they care about money more than the people?
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Post by Admin on Feb 7, 2018 14:33:02 GMT
Laura has made a great post and raised an interesting statement to consider: "One of the most difficult parts of dealing with a natural disaster is determining how to allocate resources to everyone fairly." She goes on to touch on the topic of government intervention and giving "special treatment" to certain people and certain areas. Consider these points as you respond
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Post by Barbie Cessar on Feb 7, 2018 17:00:12 GMT
Day Zero, the day when most of the tapes will be shut off, lingers over Cape Town located in South Africa. Most recently since February first, “The residents are restricted to 13.2 gallons of water each day.(nbcnews.com) Keep in mind the average American uses an estimated 80 and 100 gallons of water daily. The crisis is not a matter of if it happens it is more of a matter when it happens, and it is now predicted that day zero will occur on April 12th(CNN). Restricting the water supply would be a logical approach to delay day zero but it is not very effective because “60 percent of Cape Town residents are still not complying with current restrictions.(nbc news)” Unfortunately in order to make sure everyone is staying within the restrictions they will have to be punishments set in place for the people who ignore the regulations. I do not believe that having the South African Military guard the water supply will be helpful because I predict that they will abuse their power. Especially in a time of a crisis I think people will be willing to do anything just to get water which intensifies the whole situation. Countries like England have already started funding through social media and have moved about 10,000 liters of water to Cape town. This is a great outcome now but it unfortunately won’t be enough for the future of Cape Town. The world is going to have to look for answers outside of social media to permanently fix the water crisis. Water is a necessity to life therefore it is extremely important to raise awareness and support for the crisis worldwide.
I also found something interesting on one of the cities that Ricky provided (globalnews.ca). It was a picture of a man holding up a sign who took part in the protest against the way Cape Town city council.The sign said “Water is not a privilege, water is a right.” So my question is: Do you believe water is a privilege or a right? Why?
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Post by Laura Gutauskas on Feb 8, 2018 0:29:59 GMT
@barbiecessar I was really confused about that man’s sign because it doesn’t seem to fit into the argument of a certain thing being a right and not a privilege. Typically, we view rights as something that is unlimited, intangible, or not going anywhere anytime soon unless it infringes on someone else (free speech, freedom of religion, right to bear arms, etc). Although, in this case, what is he trying to argue towards the right to water? Of course every human needs water to survive and a government shouldn’t prevent anyone from getting it, but when it’s completely gone, what is a government to do? I might be misunderstanding his reason for protest and instead he might be upset that the government has decided to exempt certain areas instead of one where he resides. Considering this, I can see why water shouldn’t be given to only “privileged” areas and should instead be given equally for what is left of it, therefore making it a “right.” A right until the right can no longer be accessible to EVERY citizen.
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Post by Meghan Miller on Feb 8, 2018 20:35:15 GMT
South Africa’s water crisis is an unsettling reality of climactic change and the impact it has on large regions of the world. Cape Town, a major tourist destination is running out of water to maintain the metropolitan area. In the event of ‘Day Zero’ happening South Africa’s military would guard and regulate water supply. This action would be effective to restrict domestic water usage, however, they would not be able to secure water from “commercial areas and institutions such as hospitals”(Global News). The military would be there just to “prevent any one person from collecting far above their daily water allocation. Officials will be onsite to monitor potential abuse, and residents are also encouraged to report any abuse they witness” this type of intervention seems to be best for the common good and would be a benefit to the community(Global News). These restrictions are a last resort that may have to be put into place if citizens do not curb their water usage. Right now, there are limits and fines in place to curb water usage but Sitaara Stodel said that “People are still watering their lawns, filling their pools and bathing. They seem happy to just pay the fines”(NBC News). Since the fines are not affecting water usage, different measures should be put into place, such as possible prison time and/or community service time. This problem is not entirely caused by the citizens of South Africa, it was created by a drought and worsened by irresponsible water usage. Specific countries should not be forced to intervene but international aid organizations have and should continue to aid South Africa by supplying water. CNN reports that “Drop-off points were organized across these cities, with the help of a nationwide disaster-relief charity, Gift of the Givers, which just launched the "Water 4 Cape Town" campaign on social media”. These organizations are the types that should get involved, not simply outside governments that need to worry about running their own countries. These problems need to be solved, but it would be much better for them to be prevented by addressing the root of the problem
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Post by jonah on Feb 8, 2018 23:05:23 GMT
The water crisis is South Africa is a ridiculous situation because all of the rest of the world there is a plentiful amount of water. The leftover water should be donated to the Cape Townians because of their shortage. And not only in Cape Town is there a threatening shortage but in Lesotho, a land-locked mountain kingdom, there is a possible shortage of water. According to reuters.com “dam levels in Lesotho are “very low” - the worst ranking - and are in their 10th percentile, meaning levels have been higher more than 90 percent of the time at this point in the year.” If this crisis continues Cape Town could be the first major city to go dry in South Africa history. South African government has gone so far as to have there military and police by the distribution site just to enforce the regulations on the water use. As NBCnews.com says “But even with "Day Zero" looming, officials say 60 percent of Cape Town residents are still not complying with current restrictions.” 60 percent of residents are ruining it for the rest of the residents that are following the regulations. The South African government is trying to enforce their regulations even further with applying fines to those who disobey the laws put forth and they seem to not be working. But maybe the fines should be more hefty and strict so that they can make their water supply last a little longer. As CNN.com said in their article about the mother who got friends in neighboring cities to help has made a huge difference. Through social media help she, along with others, have established more than 70 distribution points for people to get more water than what the government has regulated. This water is coming from several different cities and countries but we shouldn’t stop there. Countries such as the United States and england should have their government step in and send water to South Africa and even other countries that are experiences droughts and water shortages.
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Post by Maya French on Feb 9, 2018 1:45:29 GMT
What is happening in Cape Town is a perfect example of people’s ignorance in the face of disaster. In the video provided above the CNN article, the Mayor’s office of Cape Town was quoted as saying “we can no longer ask people to stop wasting water. We must force them”. These people have, for the most part ignored the suggested restrictions placed on them and inevitably cut their time and water supply dangerously short. Instead if realizing their mistake some Cape Town residents instead chose to point fingers at the government officials for the way that they are handling the situation. Although I did not see much evidence of the local government reaching out for help, it is a bit extreme to be protesting a naturally occurring problem you took part in making worse. It was interesting that in a photo provided by Adam Frisk for Global News a protestor could be seen holding a sign that read “ “Water is not a privilege water is a right!!!” I found it interesting that there are people who view this matter as a problem of the government, possibly even as an oppressive move on the citizens of Cape Town. Yes, the government is just taking the water away from you as a way to take away one of your rights. These types of protests are always arising at any type of misfortune or crisis within a country. Thankfully some publicity was used for the good with the efforts of Talita van der Heever. Through her single act of reaching out via social media she was able to raise enough local awareness that a small step was taken for the better. Glianluca Mezzoflore wrote that Heever “ started receiving requests from other parts of South Africa, including Durban, Johannesburg, Bloemfontein and even outside the country's borders, from Namibia”. This is all quite promising but I have very little faith that support will come from much farther than neighboring countries and perhaps a handful of more powerful countries in the beginning. People tend to lose interest quickly in crisis such as these. Do you think that the protests being held by Cape Town Citizens, against the government restrictions is out of line or are they justified in their actions and beliefs?
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Post by Makayla Rieder on Feb 9, 2018 1:58:41 GMT
South Africa’s Cape Town water shortage is definitely interesting. I think that it’s quite remarkable that people are still using plenty of water when they know they need to reserve, like it said in the NBC article about people still running their sprinklers and on the CNN article about people being happy to pay the fines for using too much water, when they are portraying “Day Zero” as if it’s an apocalypse. Shouldn’t the people living there be at least a little concerned that they’re literally about to run out of clean drinking water? How can you not care that much or stay in denial that much that you just aren’t going to do anything? It’s astonishing honestly. With the military guarding the water supply, i think it will be effective, but i’m sure they will get a ton of backlash. I mean there might even be riots at the water collection centers. People are going to be mad that you are limiting them even if it’s for their own good, especially since over half of the population seem to not care. If military guarding doesn’t work, I don’t see anything else they can do but let the people drink themselves dry and make them deal with it themselves when they run out. The other countries around Africa should try to help a bit. I don’t know what they could really do other than send water, but they should at least do that. I think that for right now, social media is doing a pretty good job on its own. Social media is doing an amazing job at raising awareness and sending supplies to Cape Town for right now, but the fire will die and water won’t just keep pouring in from other places and Cape Town will eventually have to fend for itself without a lot of assistance from people around the country and foreign countries. They can’t be too dependent on other people to supply them water or else when the hype dies and people stop sending, they’ll fall into major crisis and drought and won’t know what to do.
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Post by Maya French on Feb 9, 2018 2:16:52 GMT
@meghan Miller In reference to your quote ". These problems need to be solved, but it would be much better for them to be prevented by addressing the root of the problem." What exactly would be your idea of addressing the root of the problem? The local government is already taking militant actions in order to address the limits that need to be set and so far this has not resulted in any violent outbursts. You used a quote to emphasize that even the fines were not curbing peoples behavior and then added your own point that prison time should served for going over the water limit. Adam Frisk quotes Cape Town officials as stating “When our dam levels reach 13. 5 per cent, we will begin to shut down our reticulation system, except to key commercial areas and institutions such as hospitals.” Is it possible that some such intuitions could include prisons? This would be an interesting point to be seen argued by such officials that had to chose where to cut water access. If there any other possible ways to address this root problem?
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Post by Maya French on Feb 9, 2018 2:29:24 GMT
@laura, in regards to the discussion question you posed, of course its all about the money. In reading about the tourism I made a few ties to the scenes in Hotel Rwanda when it was made very clear in the beginning stages of the Hutu uprising that the comfort of the guests was the number one priority. Despite the fear and death occurring just outside the walls, many tourists enjoyed luxury within the hotel with no expense spared because it was bringing in money. Tourism can come before crops in terms of money and therefore many business minded people see it more important, never mind the practicality of crops being much greater than tourism. So in the case of deciding where the remaining water should go, tourism is likely above many everyday necessities and this may be a fault that will have dire consequences.
crops, hospitals, come second
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Post by Maya French on Feb 9, 2018 2:30:26 GMT
oops, ignore my notes at the bottom of that last reply.
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