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Post by SETH THE BOSS on Oct 30, 2017 1:46:56 GMT
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Post by Eithan Beckwith on Nov 1, 2017 0:04:06 GMT
These articles were very interesting and It kinda brought me back to the way i thought about the ban on Muslim veil where it seems they are stereotyping a certain group of ethnic people or people who believe in something because it was saying how they were persecuting people of a certain ethnicity and background for what ? Nothing they reasoning was because of their linking with jihadism and terrorism. But their is only a certain few groups who are involved with these action. It is not the entire population of Rohingyaian people going out and pursuing these action of terrorism or extremism. Which it even said it was allowing citizenship of some with a certain background for a period of time but now they are killing raping and just harassing this minority group which is unethical because just because a few people of a group go out of hand they should not be able to just wipe out or prosecute these people of ethnicity for it because they are just going of a stigma. which should not be a case especially with their change of government to democracy. So all in all i believe this is morally wrong and unconstitutional to wrap a whole ethnic group in with a minority of a minority party and prosecute them all and they should have to need cause or suspicion of terrorism to be able to prosecute or do anything to these people especially they way of torture and putting mines on paths were these people are trying escape this wrong doing. like it was saying how they were killing kids and raping women of this ethnicity which is not ethical at all because that is not punishment this is brutality of this government to let this happen under their rule.
So do you believe this is possible government corruption or something more or less ?
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Post by Nick Newman on Nov 1, 2017 3:30:22 GMT
After reading these articles, the treatment of the the Rohingya Muslims seems very unfair and inhuman. Refugees have been a problem in countries all around the world, always in discussion in government, but no government has handled the situation like the government of Myanmar. Some 600,600 Rohingya Muslims have been pushed out of their homes into Bangladesh. These peoples have been denied basic human rights ever since Myanmar gained independence from Great Britain. Laws have been put into place dening Rohingya Muslims to become citizens, increasing the persecution. Many factors contribute to these events being an example of ethnic cleansing. The Myanmar government does not want the Rohingya Muslims in their country, so they are making their life as worse as possible, basically forcing them out. Some type of intervention needs to take place. Men are getting beheaded, women are getting raped, and children are being killed, just because of their religion. It is not only harming these people, but it is also hurting Bangladesh, a neighboring country. Bangladesh is one of the world's poorest countries, and the country cannot stay afloat with all these refugees coming into the country. The United Nations need to stop ignoring this and come to the help of these people. The myanmar government and people have a very racist view on the Rohingya Muslims. According to some citizens, they believe all muslims are terrorist. Muslims have been associated with extremism for a long time, but using it as an excuse to exile an entire ethnic group who have been living in Myanmar for generation in just uncalled for. I think the events transpiring will better the views of muslims on a macro level. They have been subjected to inhuman treatment and laws, but for the most part still attempted to maintain the peace. They are forced to live without citizenship. These people are not allowed things like public health care or education, basic necessities in our western culture. Even through enduring all this, they are still saw of as a problem by the Myanmar government. If people knew what these Muslims had to go through, they might have a better view on them.
How can an organization diplomatically resolve the persecution of the Rohingya Muslims?
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Post by Sarah Shumaker on Nov 2, 2017 0:22:30 GMT
Thinking about all that is going on in Myanmar and all the lives that are being lost is a terrifying thought. People are being taken or forced out of their homes purely because of a stereotype or fear that the Rohingya people will terrorize the country. I still do not understand why the government sees that what they are doing is just as bad, if not worse than what the supposed "terrorist Rohingya" could do. They are killing, raping, belittling their own people. I do not think this is an ethnic cleansing. I see this more as a target on the minority and discrimination against people that deserve rights. As stated in one of the articles, this is beyond the line of human rights. This is no longer a government trying to persecute illegal immigrants, this is an inhumane, mass execution. I definitely think this should be considered a genocide, if it is not already. The definition of a genocide is the mass killing of a group of people, especially those of a particular ethnicity or nation. Forcing these some 600,000 people to leave the country they were born and raised in, is something that can no longer be left alone. Since the government of Myanmar is clearly corrupt, other countries need to get involved. This is no longer only effecting one country. It is effecting Bangladesh as well, an already poor and underprivileged country. Despite attempts as mentioned in one of the documents, government intervention from other countries may be beneficial. Some people view it as the fact that since the United States does not get any benefits from this country, that it should just be left alone. Soon, the problems will spread to a national level, and Bangladesh wont be the only country effected.
When and how do you think the government of Myanmar should be addressed about this issue?
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Post by Autumn Painter on Nov 2, 2017 0:50:59 GMT
As a US citizen, it is difficult to understand the many differences in other parts of the world. We sometimes don’t realize how good we have it here. Our system allows for wondrous opportunities that many people can’t even begin to imagine. The Rohingyas are experiencing the most wretched treatment, it’s hard to wrap your mind around how a government can be so cruel to people. This looks as if it is ethnic cleansing, but honestly, it seems far worse. It is not just one group in a society taking out another, it goes deeper than that. Instead of the military focusing on external issues that could potentially be more of a threat, they are going after a group based on a stereotype. When I think of military, I think of protect and honor. Neither of which can be related to the Myanmar military actions against the Rohingyas. Not only are the Rohingyas rejected by the government by not even being considered a citizen, but men, women, and children are being killed and raped based on their ethnicity. Stereotypical isolation is present in the US, but not to this extreme. The Rohingyas simply wanted what they were promised, but it is evident that they would not receive anything, after Myanmar’s independence from the British. Sending supplies does not necessarily help the Rohingyas, there is a bigger issue at hand. It is crazy to think that the common benefits we have, are not a given in other parts of the world. For example, the Rohingyas being denied an education. This is difficult to envision considering in the US we are basically forced into education. The only way for them to gain acceptance is to relocate, which is not ideal for most. Is the Rohingya situation too big of an issue to handle? Is the extermination of all Rohingyas in Myanmar inevitable? In this situation, in what way can government intervention from outside forces be beneficial? What can be done to refine the lives of the threatened Rohingyas?
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Post by Erin Reimers on Nov 2, 2017 1:29:22 GMT
The Rohingya crisis in Myanmar is arguably one of the worst examples of violence seen exhibited on a group of people. The violence against the Rohingya people by the Burmese government can be seen almost as barbaric, beheading men, torturing children, and raping women. Despite the atrocities taking place, this crisis has yet to be made into headline news. It is being considered a case of ethnic cleansing and genocide by many yet no international nations are offering major help in spite of the crimes against humanity. There has also been an incredible amount of Rohingya people fleeing to other countries, namely Bangladesh. This influx of refugees is the fastest-growing emergency refugee crisis in the world. The country of Bangladesh is already an extremely poor country and with the added cost of the refugees the country is struggling to help support them. Although these events are taking place in another part of the world and are not directly affecting other largely influencing countries, aid should be expected for the Rohingya people in the name of protecting fellow humans from crimes against humanity. Countries, however, have not been responding to these heinous acts despite being prompted to hold a special session. This kind of aid goes beyond the regular sanctions as they have proved to not help in the past for this situation. The Rohingya people have never been able to feel truly part of a nation for as long as they have known. They are in a position of statelessness, where they are not considered native to any country under law. In spite of the disastrous events taking place against the Rohingya people, the government of Myanmar refuses to acknowledge the actions and excuses it as acts of ‘anti-terrorism.’ Terrorism is defined in different ways for different countries. With the Rohingya people being Muslim and the majority of Burmese being Buddhist conflict arises there. That, however, excuses no acts that go past against the rights of humanity, especially those unprovoked.
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Post by Alex Aspinall on Nov 2, 2017 1:32:09 GMT
These articles were very interesting and It kinda brought me back to the way i thought about the ban on Muslim veil where it seems they are stereotyping a certain group of ethnic people or people who believe in something because it was saying how they were persecuting people of a certain ethnicity and background for what ? Nothing they reasoning was because of their linking with jihadism and terrorism. But their is only a certain few groups who are involved with these action. It is not the entire population of Rohingyaian people going out and pursuing these action of terrorism or extremism. Which it even said it was allowing citizenship of some with a certain background for a period of time but now they are killing raping and just harassing this minority group which is unethical because just because a few people of a group go out of hand they should not be able to just wipe out or prosecute these people of ethnicity for it because they are just going of a stigma. which should not be a case especially with their change of government to democracy. So all in all i believe this is morally wrong and unconstitutional to wrap a whole ethnic group in with a minority of a minority party and prosecute them all and they should have to need cause or suspicion of terrorism to be able to prosecute or do anything to these people especially they way of torture and putting mines on paths were these people are trying escape this wrong doing. like it was saying how they were killing kids and raping women of this ethnicity which is not ethical at all because that is not punishment this is brutality of this government to let this happen under their rule. So do you believe this is possible government corruption or something more or less ? I agree, though to me it seems almost that this hatred comes from the countries old imperialist roots, and the difference in allegiance during WW2. |
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Post by Alex Aspinall on Nov 2, 2017 1:51:19 GMT
The atrocities being committed by the military are almost ironic given they are in the name of counter terrorism. from the articles it would appear that the Rohingya's were a fairly peaceful group that just happened to have too many strikes against them to not be hated by the Burmese. It seems a difference in this refugee crisis would be that the country they seek asylum in is trying its hardest to wipe them off the face of the earth. I could certainly see the argument for the ethnic cleansing, however i think that it was a mix of things, one is their ethnicity, but also their religion, their class, and their history with the Burmese government that they are being targeted. As for US intervention i dont think we'll see any of that until the Rohingya's start producing oil, as goes for the rest of the western world. I think if the rest of the world is going to keep complaining about us then we may as well do the right thing and help people, weather that be the secret transport of supplies, sanctions on the Burmese government, or armed protection at the behest of the Rohingya. We could keep them safe from the harsh military presence, OR if they really were terrorists we would do the Burmese's job for them wouldn't we? I dont think its affected the view of Muslims enough, here is a group a relatively moderate and peaceful Muslims coexisting with those of another faith and then they get ethnically cleansed for it, its like they arent even getting a chance.
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Post by Chase Wolinski on Nov 2, 2017 3:05:16 GMT
The Rohingya are being subjected to one of the cruelest punishments put forth by a government towards a group of people. It’s pretty heartbreaking when you look at the situation these people are in. The entire world has seemingly turned a blind eye to the horrors happening in Myanmar. I look at the problem not as one of refugees, but as one of a hypocritical population. For example, one of the main practices of Buddhism, the religion with the most influence in the country, is Sila. It claims all living things are equal and should have an equal voice. It also states you should be able to support yourself without harming others. Now I find this very hypocritical when it comes down to the situation currently present in Myanmar. To quote one of the articles, "sometimes Buddhist monks try to intimidate us by shouting religious slogans. They call us 'kalar', an insulting word for Muslims." This is extremely unsettling when a figure of such high value in the Buddhist religion as a monk is using derogatory terminology and not treating a fellow human being in the way his very own religion believes. We can’t expect these people to get along and understand one another on a grand scale when there is no togetherness or understanding at a the lowest level. Myanmar’s refugee crisis is being fueled by this fundamental hatred not even the most religious can avoid. In order for something to be done for the Rohingya, we need to first change the very nature of the Myanmar people. As the contextualization article pointed out, this is not something which has appeared within the last few years. These people have been persecuted for most of their existence in the country and the views toward them has only gotten more and more skewed.
In the end, it comes down to human nature. People will hold their beliefs, whether they’re good or bad, until someone does something profound to change them. I believe the only way we can help the Rohingya is first by helping the Myanmar people.
How would any group or person in power go about changing the ways of the Myanmar people?
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Post by Mr. Williams on Nov 3, 2017 0:29:50 GMT
In all these articles they were interesting but also upsetting. When we did the Ban on Muslim veil it was about banning the veils that would cover their whole entire face not being judge by their religion or even being tortured based on their race. In the Ban on Muslim veil they were banning the veil for safety reason because of all the terrorist attacks that have happened and in the Rohingya Crisis they are basically destroying innocent Muslims that don't have anywhere to go. Myanmar didn’t consider Rohingyas as citizens they called them foreigners which made it super hard for people to find places to live because they are “illegal” in Myanmar. While they were calling Rohingyas foreigners the army also killed, tortured, and raped them. Could there be a different way that torturing, killing, or even raping the Muslims. When the Rohingyas had a refugee in Bangladesh the Myanmar army still went over and carried on the attack and burned down their homes, beheaded men, and even raped women. The Rohingyas are not aloud to have more than 2 children which is and isn't normal. For instance when we talked about China we learn that they were not aloud to have more than 2 children and then you have us U.S. citizens who can have as many as we want so they aren't the only ones with that rule. In the article Lack of International Action on Rohingya Crisis called a “Disgrace” it says citizenship should not be based on race. By that statement people may think that Muslims are different or shouldn’t be here because all they do is cause terrorist attacks and etc. But maybe they will start to have a different view on Muslims because they are being harmed and aren’t doing anything so maybe people may respect them more. Just because they people judge the Muslims don’t mean the government wouldn’t either that’s why citizenship could be based on your race and the “people’s” opinion. Also based on the Muslims race is that why the U.S. hasn't really stepped in on this issue?
In this world is everything that we do or every action we take based on race?
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Post by Mr. Williams on Nov 3, 2017 0:37:22 GMT
@autumn In this situation, in what way can government intervention from outside forces be beneficial?
It would be very beneficial if a government would get involved or get there army to get involved and stop this mad destruction if they were kicking the Muslims out or something it would be a whole different story but they are ruining their lives and not 100 or 200 live its thousands of lives which will have a big impact on everyone in the world eventually.
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Post by Mr. Williams on Nov 3, 2017 0:43:44 GMT
@eithan So do you believe this is possible government corruption or something more or less ?
First I wanna say we basically were thinking alike on this assignment just because it was bringing back memories from others topics we have studied but this is definitely government corruption they are using they powers to destroy the people they judge because of their race.
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Post by Derek on Nov 3, 2017 1:46:21 GMT
This issue is happening at a bad time. Today's world seems to be very tense with the fear of terrorist attacks and North Korea's aggression and nuclear threats. That is why I believe the Rohingyas are not receiving the help everyone feels they deserve. From my view it seems that it is a view of ethnic cleansing. It is obvious the Rohingyas are no longer wanted. Although the Rohingyas are not citizens in is absolutely wrong to do what the military of Myanmar is doing. It all comes down to who is going to intervene first. You have to take into account that whoever intervenes to stop this it will cost them money and time that could be used for something else. The Rohingyas clearly have nothing to pay whoever would come help so this could be a large factor in why help has not been received. Also by going in to help the Rohingyas in a lower secured country could cause whoever is going to help more vulnerable for an attack by another force (terrorists). So by going to do what is right could end up in even more problems. The right to do from the start would be to just deport the Rohingyas but instead they are murdering them. If help does not arrive soon then if it does arrive it might be to little to late so it needs to happen as soon as possible if anyone plans on intervening. Who would help if anyone is going to help? Additional article with short video: news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/09/rohingya-refugee-crisis-myanmar-burma-spd/ |
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Post by Evelyn McCullough on Nov 3, 2017 1:48:46 GMT
As an American citizen who self-proclaims to be well informed , after reading of the severity of this article and the side articles, this was nothing less than shock.
Reading through the main article, from beginning to end there always seemed to be a struggle , the mistreatment of the Rohingya were extreme on political , social, and even spiritual levels . The violence portrayed which came in many forms is something that simply cannot and should not be able to exist in modern society. It's hard to imagine such a barbaric treatment of people in 2017 , And it's not only prominent in this location. Africa and the Middle east suffer a barbaric fate as well. But can we control it? Do we as humans , or as nations having the power, authority or driving force to stop it, and should we?
Looking at Myanmar and the cruelty taking place , it's hard not to define it as Inhumane, Genocide and destruction of people's Homes, Families , and Lives through demolition , murder/genocide, rape and other methods are prominent and there, It is not hidden in the shadows , it's not behind our backs. Its there for the world to see, but many choose to ignore it. But should we ignore it? Because it's far away, or this place has no use to us? Is Human life and security for the struggling parts of the world worth it for us? Its hard to admit to these things, and so nations sweep it under the rug and ignore it. The lack of intervention so far is a sign of shame in the nations not wanting to admit a lack of morality. Is modern society an idea of nations keeping to themselves and prospering while outside our borders thousands of people cry for help, but we close our doors and blinds to them ?
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