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Post by Admin on Sept 27, 2017 16:34:03 GMT
Is Puerto Rico still a victim of colonial neglect? Read the following article in the attached hyperlink. Please note that this is an op-ed, there is an intentional opinion embedded in the article. The following explains how you will be assessed: 1. Make at least one original post that addresses the guiding question. • Compose a response (around 200-300 words) • Use specific evidence from the reading in your response 2. Pose at least one question for discussion that would invite a peer to respond at the end of your original post 3. Respond to at least two (2) of your peers directly Scroll down to the bottom and click "Reply to Topic" Enter your name where it says guest name (USE LAST NAME) Type your "original post" and click create post Next, Instead of hitting the "Quote" button, simply use @thestudents name to signify your reply, this way we will not take up so much space (Thank you Emily Sarver for this idea)
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Link to Articles:Read Both
www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/9/26/16365994/hurricane-maria-2017-puerto-rico-san-juan-humanitarian-disaster-electricty-fuel-flights-facts
www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/09/27/puerto-rico-is-still-a-victim-of-colonial-neglect/?utm_term=.9fff38df9960
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Post by Shumaker on Sept 28, 2017 20:04:56 GMT
Colonial neglect is most definitely still evident today. Even more so now that the hurricane completely devastated the island and made it almost completely uninhabitable. The point that over 50% of people didn't even know that Puerto Ricans were considered U.S. citizens aids in my point that the island is neglected. People weren't willing to help the colony until they realized that more American citizens live there than in 21 U.S. states. Some people just view the island as a means of profit, and aren't really willing to do anything to help the people. Trump himself is even making excuses to avoid helping them by saying that it's “on an island in the middle of the ocean,” where “you can't just drive your trucks there from other states.” Also, people living on the colony don't really have any government representation, despite legally being citizens.
Why is everyone so hesitant to help Puerto Rico? We were quick to help Texas and Florida after the hurricanes that hit there, why is Puerto Rico any different?
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Post by Admin on Sept 28, 2017 22:35:20 GMT
Nice job posting early, Sarah! Thank you for getting the conversation started!
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Post by VanDyke on Sept 29, 2017 5:07:30 GMT
It is quite obvious that Puerto Rico is experiencing colonial neglect.I feel like the severity of the neglect is being a little over hyped. Love him or hate him but a lot has been put on Trump that it is his fault for apparently taking to long to aid in this natural disaster. This topic has taken time for the news to report on because of more popular issues like the NFL protests. BUT it has not taken time to respond. There was pleanty of immediate relief by the national guard. The head of the National Guard on Tuesday said "there has been no delay in federal help to Peurto Rico despite claims from lawmakers that the territory was not receiving adequate help." General Joseph Lengyel "said he has not seen any political posturing that would deny or slow aid to the U.S. territory". However this is the National Guard it is moments like this that they are there for so it is expected that they respond quickly. It does seem though that the quantity of supplies being sent over is not enough and more could be sent. The help is there just not enough supplies yet. With only 10 hospitals running resources are getting used rapidly. "Two people died yesterday because there was no diesel fuel where they were". It is hard to believe with the way we have all grown up in the states that two people lost their lives because of lack of diesel fuel. It is crazy to think that I have that simple resource that could of saved two lives sitting in my garage right now! The islands debt was bad enough but after this disaster it hasn't pretty much put put Puerto Rico in the dirt. After doing further research and fact checking, it is said that vox is left wing. This could have altered the beneficial facts like our National Guards immediate response. Also after doing more research this is not the first time the United States has been criticized for taking to much time to respond after a hurricane. It was complained that in 2005 relief efforts took to long after hurricane Katrina which hit in the states let alone an island that's much harder to get to. Forming an opinion is hard in today's political topics because there is hardly anywhere you can find news that is not one sided. What is the point of rebuilding? What if this happens all over again next hurricane season? Link to hurricane Katrina article: mg.co.za/article/2005-09-03-katrina-why-did-help-take-so-long-to-arriveLink to fact check for vox: mediabiasfactcheck.com/vox/
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Post by Evelyn McCullough on Sept 29, 2017 11:03:35 GMT
The troubles and heartache Puerto Rico faces is heartbreaking , and should be no matter if they are citizens or not. The unawareness that this country inst even known to be a US colony is pitiful for a nation, It shows a lack of proper education and situational awareness. The current situation most definitely shows neglect from the US , from both the citizens and the administration. The administration is making excuses as to why help is not present, throwing an entire suffering island into more pain, an island of US citizens which the current administration, wanted to focus on in the beginning , the well being of the US citizens . They're just an "island in the middle of the ocean", a small island but an island full of innocent helpless people, and citizens of a country to uneducated and neglectful to have any sympathy for them .
Do we simply neglect a part of our country if its 'to far away' to help ? What would happen if all of Hawaii was devastated, would the same thing happen?
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Post by Admin on Sept 29, 2017 11:07:21 GMT
It is quite obvious that Puerto Rico is experiencing colonial neglect.I feel like the severity of the neglect is being a little over hyped. Love him or hate him but a lot has been put on Trump that it is his fault for apparently taking to long to aid in this natural disaster. This topic has taken time for the news to report on because of more popular issues like the NFL protests. BUT it has not taken time to respond. There was pleanty of immediate relief by the national guard. The head of the National Guard on Tuesday said "there has been no delay in federal help to Peurto Rico despite claims from lawmakers that the territory was not receiving adequate help." General Joseph Lengyel "said he has not seen any political posturing that would deny or slow aid to the U.S. territory". However this is the National Guard it is moments like this that they are there for so it is expected that they respond quickly. It does seem though that the quantity of supplies being sent over is not enough and more could be sent. The help is there just not enough supplies yet. With only 10 hospitals running resources are getting used rapidly. "Two people died yesterday because there was no diesel fuel where they were". It is hard to believe with the way we have all grown up in the states that two people lost their lives because of lack of diesel fuel. It is crazy to think that I have that simple resource that could of saved two lives sitting in my garage right now! The islands debt was bad enough but after this disaster it hasn't pretty much put put Puerto Rico in the dirt. After doing further research and fact checking, it is said that vox is left wing. This could have altered the beneficial facts like our National Guards immediate response. Also after doing more research this is not the first time the United States has been criticized for taking to much time to respond after a hurricane. It was complained that in 2005 relief efforts took to long after hurricane Katrina which hit in the states let alone an island that's much harder to get to. Forming an opinion is hard in today's political topics because there is hardly anywhere you can find news that is not one sided. What is the point of rebuilding? What if this happens all over again next hurricane season? Link to hurricane Katrina article: mg.co.za/article/2005-09-03-katrina-why-did-help-take-so-long-to-arriveLink to fact check for vox: mediabiasfactcheck.com/vox/Very Impressive Derek. I am extremely proud of your extra work and your connection to media literacy that we learned last year. This addition is fantastic and you should be really proud of your efforts and input. Thank you for going the extra step and bringing an additional- and very great- point of discussion.
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Post by alex aspinall on Sept 29, 2017 11:46:45 GMT
Puerto Rico is a neglected colony of the united states. despide the fact they are registered voters, and American citizens they are relatively ignored. since the hurricane Puerto Rico has been without power. The president has expressed his concern for the colony on his twitter page, but sadly mainstream coverage on their situation is almost nonexist. These people are often ignored by mainland America, usually after most natural disasters that hit the colony, leaving it without aid for too long.For reasons such as these and more Puerto Rico is a neglected colony.
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Post by Admin on Sept 29, 2017 12:17:56 GMT
Please Remember:
make sure Original Posts are closer to 250-300 words to meet the minimum requirements for credit. To ensure this, first type your response in a Google Doc, click the drop down of "tools" and click on word count. Then paste it in the text box here on the discussion board. Make sure you are referencing the article, or another article to give the response evidence.
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Post by Admin on Sept 30, 2017 22:32:54 GMT
Instead of hitting the "Quote" button, simply use @thestudents name to signify your reply, this way we will not take up so much space (Thank you Emily Sarver for this idea)
For example: @derekvandyke I appreciate the effort that you put into your last post.
@chasewollinski fantastic job including the NPR podcast- Impressive
Both student replies may appear (but are not limited to appear) in the same thread. Meaning, both of your relies can be made at once like the example above. Please make your replies to your peers longer than one sentence though.
Your efforts thus far are making me really excited and thrilled by your participation! Keep it up!
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Post by Erin Reimers on Oct 1, 2017 5:19:08 GMT
Puerto Rico is still a victim of colonial neglect in the manner that even as they are considered US citizens, they still have not acquired the same status and opportunities as other US state citizens. They do not have the opportunity to vote in presidential elections and it seems half the US population does not even know that Puerto Ricans are US citizens. With the two hurricanes that have ripped through Puerto Rico and left the island in great turmoil, the US is indeed sending resources and aid. However people say that the aid could have arrived much quicker and that the US is not treating this is as big of a disaster that it is. Despite being far away from the US mainland in more ways than one, breaking off from the US would not be beneficial for the territory itself. The island is in crippling debt and the economy was not in stable condition even before the hurricanes hit. Even though the support the US gives Puerto Rico is limited, it is still beneficial to the island to remain part of the US. They would not have the resources available in enough quantity to survive on their own as an official country.
Do you think Puerto Rico would benefit or suffer if they were to gain total independence?
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Post by Chase Wolinski on Oct 1, 2017 16:36:00 GMT
Puerto Rico is obviously being neglected as the territory is not receiving the bare necessities for survival after a devastating disaster. However, as the Vox article pointed out, half of Americans are not educated with even basic ideas regarding Puerto Rico. If this large a part of our country can't even understand the citizenship status of the territory, then how are they expected to provide an educated response to the problem of aiding them? Another large matter to look at was also brought up by the Vox article. The Jones Act of 1920 (not the Jones-Scaforth Act of 1917) hinders the ability to provide aid in an economically and beneficially sound way. By having to use American made, owned, manned, and maintained ships or be forced to pay an astronomically large fee, the aid needed to help Puerto Rico dramatically harder to provide. A NPR podcast on this topic highlights the absurdity of this act not only on the topic of hurricane relief, but also day to day operations of the territory. With this unnecessary act still in place, it brings up the topic of why it is still in place. It can be argued that the neglect of Puerto Rico is not a recent matter, but one that has been around for over 90 years. By not allowing the island to receive everyday items without a high tariff, then how are they not going to be neglected in times of great need? So, is the neglect shown to Puerto Rico intentional or is it spawned out of ignorance? NPR Podcast: www.npr.org/sections/money/2017/09/27/553990861/episode-524-mr-jones-actUSA Today article on the Jones Act: www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/10/01/jones-act-swamp-creature-strangling-puerto-rico-refuses-to-die-colin-grabow-column/716162001/
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Post by Williams on Oct 1, 2017 23:17:15 GMT
Puerto Rico has faced many troubles and natural disasters which causes it to be dealing with colonial neglect. There are multiple meanings for the word "neglect" . For example there can be a country or state that is already "neglected" or there is a country or state in the process of being neglected. Everyone is starting to think that The U.S. has basically neglected Puerto Rico because of Donald trump and how long it is taking to "help" or "Support" Puerto Rico. But the article said "The United States may not like to see itself as the type of nation that has colonies, but if you’re not treating Puerto Rico and its American citizens the same way as you treat states and theirs, that’s the only explanation". However Puerto Rico is receiving resources and aids but they weren't receiving them as fast as everyone would like. U.S. citizens think "Trump" doesn't care about Puerto Rico just because of how we didn't get to them super "fast" but Puerto Rico wasn't the only place that was effect that the U.S. helps. The article said that the president's “attitude toward Puerto Rico is just the latest example of how the United States views its island colony — good enough to be a place for U.S. companies to make money, but not good enough to have any real political power,” making it seem like we are only using them for the money but all the citizens in Puerto Rico don't even have a chance to vote during the presidential elections so it gives the U.S. citizens a opportunity to think that we are using them. By not helping Puerto Rico "fast" then how are supposed to get back on there feet and make a living?
If the U.S. is actually "using" Puerto Rico after they heal from this disaster do you think they will go independent?
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Post by williams on Oct 1, 2017 23:21:51 GMT
Puerto Rico is still a victim of colonial neglect in the manner that even as they are considered US citizens, they still have not acquired the same status and opportunities as other US state citizens. They do not have the opportunity to vote in presidential elections and it seems half the US population does not even know that Puerto Ricans are US citizens. With the two hurricanes that have ripped through Puerto Rico and left the island in great turmoil, the US is indeed sending resources and aid. However people say that the aid could have arrived much quicker and that the US is not treating this is as big of a disaster that it is. Despite being far away from the US mainland in more ways than one, breaking off from the US would not be beneficial for the territory itself. The island is in crippling debt and the economy was not in stable condition even before the hurricanes hit. Even though the support the US gives Puerto Rico is limited, it is still beneficial to the island to remain part of the US. They would not have the resources available in enough quantity to survive on their own as an official country. Do you think Puerto Rico would benefit or suffer if they were to gain total independence? I agree with you 100 percent Erin if Puerto Rico leaves and tries gaining independence how will they get support if another hurricane or something hits them again. How would they even get food and supplies they need to live their daily lives so if puerto Rico would gain independence they would be hurting themselves more than the U.S.
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Post by Erin Reimers on Oct 2, 2017 0:01:38 GMT
The troubles and heartache Puerto Rico faces is heartbreaking , and should be no matter if they are citizens or not. The unawareness that this country inst even known to be a US colony is pitiful for a nation, It shows a lack of proper education and situational awareness. The current situation most definitely shows neglect from the US , from both the citizens and the administration. The administration is making excuses as to why help is not present, throwing an entire suffering island into more pain, an island of US citizens which the current administration, wanted to focus on in the beginning , the well being of the US citizens . They're just an "island in the middle of the ocean", a small island but an island full of innocent helpless people, and citizens of a country to uneducated and neglectful to have any sympathy for them . Do we simply neglect a part of our country if its 'to far away' to help ? What would happen if all of Hawaii was devastated, would the same thing happen? I agree that the excuse that people give about the lack of aid to Puerto Rico about it being "an island in the middle of the ocean" is unfair like you said. No distance should affect how a natural disaster should be treated in a nation. I do however believe that if the same disasters happened in Hawaii, aid would have been sent much quicker, considering they have "state status" unlike Puerto Rico.
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Post by Erin Reimers on Oct 2, 2017 0:10:40 GMT
Colonial neglect is most definitely still evident today. Even more so now that the hurricane completely devastated the island and made it almost completely uninhabitable. The point that over 50% of people didn't even know that Puerto Ricans were considered U.S. citizens aids in my point that the island is neglected. People weren't willing to help the colony until they realized that more American citizens live there than in 21 U.S. states. Some people just view the island as a means of profit, and aren't really willing to do anything to help the people. Trump himself is even making excuses to avoid helping them by saying that it's “on an island in the middle of the ocean,” where “you can't just drive your trucks there from other states.” Also, people living on the colony don't really have any government representation, despite legally being citizens. Why is everyone so hesitant to help Puerto Rico? We were quick to help Texas and Florida after the hurricanes that hit there, why is Puerto Rico any different? I believe that the reason people are so hesitant to help Puerto Rico is because like the study showed, half the population of mainland USA did not even know that Puerto Ricans are US citizens. Unlike Puerto Rico, Florida and Texas got sent aid quickly in the sense that they have statehood. People view helping the states as more of an emergency than "just" a territory of the US.
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