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Post by Cole on Mar 9, 2018 4:19:47 GMT
The abolishment of China’s two -five year terms would be absolutely detrimental for China. President Xi Jinping is already one of the strongest leaders that has ran China in decades, and if he were able to make himself an “emperor”, who knows what he would do. China is home to roughly 1.3 Billion people, and president Jinping is going to use all 1.3 billion of them to continue his “Power rule” as said in the Time article. Although he may be harming his own country by making his reign longer, he might be making it better with his trade agreements. If him and another country are close and have a strong trade relationship, then China will benefit from having that trading partner for longer, but if it is a bad relationship to start, it will only make things worse in the country. China would not physically be able to think of their old ideas and try to implement them in present day. China has way too many people in their country to go back to their old isolated ideas. They need the trade for resources to feed and House their citizens. In conclusion, President Xi Jinping is making a horrible physical decision but a decent economic decision by abolishing the term limits.
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Post by Makayla Rieder on Mar 9, 2018 4:45:42 GMT
The president of China seems to be putting himself in a bad position. Changing the constitution is probably not the smartest move for him when that is what the country runs off of. I don’t really understand why he thinks he can just change the laws of the land, even though it seems to be going smoothly and getting approved, why would you want to change that? I don’t think that this will actually truly bring back dynasties in China. I think it would just be one person being president until they step down or die and then the next one being elected, so on and so forth. Unless the people truly want one of the presidents kids as their next president, I don’t think it will be the new age of dynasties in China. Even though I don’t think dynasties will come back, I think that Xi could make China into something somewhat like North Korea. They already monitor social media so heavily, and if he alters the constitution, he could certainly give himself enough power to cut China off from the world and become a supreme leader if he really wanted to. Tying in the last question to the first one, I think that Jinping could give himself the power to turn China into a self sustaining country, but there’s a very big chance that their economy would crash and burn. They rely so heavily on outside income coming in from their exports (everything is made in China) That it would be hard to transition from being the country with the most exported goods ever to not having any contact with the outside at all. I don’t believe that other countries would necessarily hate China for Xi doing this, even though it’s obviously frowned upon through the United States rule of law, and I don’t think that China would hate the other countries.
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Post by Maddy Crighton on Mar 9, 2018 15:39:53 GMT
brooke I totally agree with you that Jinping will control China however he wants because if he is the only one in command, he will truly have no competition. Even if there was competition, it's not like they would really be heard. I do also agree that in the future, CHina will become more like north korea. He has already banned opinions that offend him, what is stopping him from brainwashing his citizens?
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Post by Laura Gutauskas on Mar 11, 2018 4:31:24 GMT
jonah Although I disagree with you about the short term turmoil that could occur because of this repeal, I found your take on a possible civil war happening in the future interesting. I only disagree because many other countries don’t see this as much of a change compared to how things are being run in China currently. When considering long term consequences though, I can definitely see how things will go wrong since people are eventually going to be fed up with the amount of power Jinping has. It’s unlikely that the people will be prioritized which is typically a leading factor to political disruption.
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Post by Matt on Mar 11, 2018 13:46:28 GMT
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Post by Olivia Girdwood on Mar 11, 2018 16:38:22 GMT
mayafrench I really like how you pulled that many countries rely on China for their exports. I was just wondering though, if Xi only changes the foreign policy for China, what is going to be the negatives on his country? If many of the countries rely on China, I feel they would be more than willing to accept foreign policy changes so as to keep their markets stable (ish). Even if some radical proposition was made, could all of the countries not gang up on China? This would be a major war, but could it not happen?
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Post by Olivia Girdwood on Mar 11, 2018 16:44:26 GMT
@cole
You are making a lot of statements without support. What countries is XI specifically close with and which ones does he have issues with? There is not much evidence. While the idea is a good one, it still would not hold in an argument. I do not believe any part of his decision will benefit the country; it only benefits him. One other question, What exactly were you thinking he would use the 1.3 billion citizens to do?
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Post by Laura Gutauskas on Mar 12, 2018 0:21:42 GMT
@matt After watching the video from that link you posted, I was intrigued by the fact that opposing delegates existed, except they didn’t even use their voice when voting and instead followed the rest that were in support of the repeal. I feel like they’re going to hold the most regret in the near future since they’ll have even less power than they did in that single moment.
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Post by Meghan Miller on Mar 12, 2018 0:39:32 GMT
@olivia You said that nothing will change regarding other countries' agreements with China, do you think maybe they will try to make more or stronger agreements? You pulled the quote “Strong, stable, predictable leadership in China is key for [Western countries]. And to achieve this, at least as far as they are concerned, he can rewrite as many parts of the Constitution as he wants” by CNN. This change would provide stability and predictability in China's government, and thus in every other part of China. Would this create and effect of other countries wanting to establish more trade agreements because they know who will be in power for a long time, and thus know how Xi will handle situations?
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Post by Barbie Cessar on Mar 12, 2018 0:47:21 GMT
@matt
It is crazy to me that China's parliament officially agreed to abolish the presidential term limits. The only question that arises is why? In no means is a dictatorship appealing because there is no representation! I think the delegates went along with it because they are not willing to speak out because Xi Jinping because he is too powerful. No one is going to want to speak out against the one man ruler in fear of consequences.
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Post by Meghan Miller on Mar 12, 2018 1:00:11 GMT
jonah I agree with your idea that with the elimination of term limits that China would depend on the rest of the world more, I am just confused on why you think trade would be more limited. Xi seems to want to "be more assertive internationally", which I take as he wants to be more directly overseeing Chinese trade with other countries(Times). That could be taken as he wants to trade less but him signing "the Belt and Road Initiative — a trade and infrastructure network tracing the ancient Silk Road though Eurasia and Africa" seems to signal the opposite. If Xi is as power hungry as I think, he would gain more power by being the cornerstone for as many economies as possible, causing other countries to rely on China.
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Post by jonah on Mar 12, 2018 1:07:53 GMT
brooke i agree that with the removal of the two year limit China could possibly turn into their neighbor, North Korea. This is not a good thing for the Chinese and/or the world. With Presidents thinking they are supreme being and taking all the power will bring conflict and wars becaus eof subbornness.
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Post by jonah on Mar 12, 2018 1:14:09 GMT
@cole and @meghan
I agree that in order for China to thrive they need trade and the rest of the world. One problem is what other countries have to say about his extended stay. If trade ties stay good then China along with the rest of the world won't change very much.
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Post by Brooke Gentile on Mar 12, 2018 1:43:33 GMT
jonahIt's funny when you said "Xi Jinping will have his fun for the next 5-10 years and people will get tired of him and overthrow him or possibly even kill him" because I was thinking the exact same thing. His people are not going to put up with him for long, and they will come together and find a way to get him out of office once they realize how bad of an idea this was. Already some of his people are commenting on social media about his current actions, and it may no take much more to push them over the edge.
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Post by Makayla Rieder on Mar 12, 2018 1:51:42 GMT
@barbie I agree that Xi Jinping will probably turn into a dictator if he is allowed to change the constitution so he can be president for as long as he wants instead of having terms. With everything he already controls, being able to bend the constitution o what he wants would just be the extra little push he needs to become an almighty ruler in China.
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